Comments on: How can the US expect the economy to grow when production and manufacturing jobs continue to go overseas? http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money Release Money with money management investment Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:50:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: oldguy http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money/comment-page-1#comment-559 oldguy Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money#comment-559 that's the problem. the US economy has been in trouble for the last 30 years, ever since jobs started being out-sourced over seas. middle class and manufacturing go hand in hand. when manufacturing in the US went over seas, the middle class in the US started to disappear. along with the disappearance of the middle class went the tax base alot of communities depended on. now that so many jobs have gone away, the tax base is even smaller so now the state and federal government are feeling the squeeze. the middle class is an endangered species and going fast, yet we are told to "spend, spend, spend to help the economy". the word "economy" has become fuzzy in meaning.. the US "economy" has different layers and those layers are getting further and futher apart. there was a time when Wall Street was a mirror to what was going on on Main Street but now, Wall Street is in its own little universe. throwing money at the problem isn't the answer. the US needs jobs, not fast food jobs but real paying jobs back. the blame is also on the US consumer who support big box stores that help drive jobs out of the US, who were taught that manufacturing jobs were "lower class". work perseption has changed also. US workers don't seen to want to get their hands dirty anymore, that why illegal immigrants are flooding in, because they will take any job. that’s the problem. the US economy has been in trouble for the last 30 years, ever since jobs started being out-sourced over seas. middle class and manufacturing go hand in hand. when manufacturing in the US went over seas, the middle class in the US started to disappear. along with the disappearance of the middle class went the tax base alot of communities depended on. now that so many jobs have gone away, the tax base is even smaller so now the state and federal government are feeling the squeeze. the middle class is an endangered species and going fast, yet we are told to "spend, spend, spend to help the economy". the word "economy" has become fuzzy in meaning.. the US "economy" has different layers and those layers are getting further and futher apart. there was a time when Wall Street was a mirror to what was going on on Main Street but now, Wall Street is in its own little universe. throwing money at the problem isn’t the answer. the US needs jobs, not fast food jobs but real paying jobs back. the blame is also on the US consumer who support big box stores that help drive jobs out of the US, who were taught that manufacturing jobs were "lower class". work perseption has changed also. US workers don’t seen to want to get their hands dirty anymore, that why illegal immigrants are flooding in, because they will take any job.

]]> By: SDD http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money/comment-page-1#comment-560 SDD Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money#comment-560 Manufacturing jobs are declining everywhere. Between 1995 and 2002, China lost 15 million manufacturing jobs, compared with 2 million in the U.S. The economies of both China and the US grew at very rapid rates 1982-2007 while all this was going on. The value of physical goods is declining relative to services in part because technology keeps making it less and less expensive to produce them. Manufacturing jobs are declining everywhere. Between 1995 and 2002, China lost 15 million manufacturing jobs, compared with 2 million in the U.S.
The economies of both China and the US grew at very rapid rates 1982-2007 while all this was going on.
The value of physical goods is declining relative to services in part because technology keeps making it less and less expensive to produce them.

]]> By: asuku t http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money/comment-page-1#comment-561 asuku t Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money#comment-561 That is the rule of the game in capitalism that respects no boundary. Or should i say greedism instead of capitalism? Commonsense tells me that there is enough for everyone one of us. Greed is the problem and unfortunately when you subscribe to greed you get back greed. The greedier the better for the greediest. That is the rule of the game in capitalism that respects no boundary.
Or should i say greedism instead of capitalism?
Commonsense tells me that there is enough for everyone one of us.
Greed is the problem and unfortunately when you subscribe to greed you get back greed.
The greedier the better for the greediest.

]]> By: Thomas http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money/comment-page-1#comment-562 Thomas Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money#comment-562 The American politicians have betrayed us for dollars in their pockets and the euphoria of power. Without temporary protectionism practices, the USA will fall. Believe it or not, a select few are looking to this decline. Our politicians are taking no constructive actions to crank manufacturing to re-make the USA position of strength. Change we got, but not the change we expected. We need to change back to building OUR economy. The American politicians have betrayed us for dollars in their pockets and the euphoria of power. Without temporary protectionism practices, the USA will fall. Believe it or not, a select few are looking to this decline. Our politicians are taking no constructive actions to crank manufacturing to re-make the USA position of strength. Change we got, but not the change we expected. We need to change back to building OUR economy.

]]> By: ronald.glass@sbcglobal.net http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money/comment-page-1#comment-563 ronald.glass@sbcglobal.net Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money#comment-563 American unionism and their power to buy politicians like President Obama. Why didn't he allow GM to go bankrupt and why did he let the UAW have preference over the preferred stock holders at Chrysler? It should be obvious. If we can not compete with foreign labor then we should employ protectionism as an economic policy. You can not have it both ways. The so called bail out of GM and Chrysler was a way to pay the unions back for their vote. The same problem is about to be faced by the politicians and the teachers union (NEA). American unionism and their power to buy politicians like President Obama. Why didn’t he allow GM to go bankrupt and why did he let the UAW have preference over the preferred stock holders at Chrysler? It should be obvious. If we can not compete with foreign labor then we should employ protectionism as an economic policy. You can not have it both ways. The so called bail out of GM and Chrysler was a way to pay the unions back for their vote. The same problem is about to be faced by the politicians and the teachers union (NEA).

]]> By: Macrocompassion http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money/comment-page-1#comment-564 Macrocompassion Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://releasemoney.net/how-can-the-us-expect-the-economy-to-grow-when-production-and-manufacturing-jobs-continue-to-go-overseas.money#comment-564 The US is still rich in resources, the only trouble is that the population lives at such a high level and is paid so well, that the costs for production are unable to compete with the same goods being made abroard. Since these other goods have to be brought to the US in order to compete with the home product, the cost difference is large. The 3 kinds of production costs are rent (for land use) wages and interest (on invested capital). The rent on land is also too high and this could be reduced if its value was taxed and landlords and banks were to stop speculating in its rising value (which caused the crisis in the first place and is still prevelant). Some of these changes are very serious and there is a lot of political pressure not to make them. The present government does not help with its old fashioned Keynesian Theory approach which does not work. Here the claim is that by moving the money to the production and banking sectors, the system will be stimulated. In the past the importing of cheaper goods was restricted but the effect of this was to protect the home industry whilst supplying more expensive goods to the public. Eventually the local industry advantage of doing this was recognized as being worse than the overall disadvantage and trade barriers were lowered for most kinds of produce (except Japanese cars, for example). The policy of having trade barriers leads to international misunderstandings and eventually diplomatic relationships become strained. The US is still rich in resources, the only trouble is that the population lives at such a high level and is paid so well, that the costs for production are unable to compete with the same goods being made abroard. Since these other goods have to be brought to the US in order to compete with the home product, the cost difference is large.

The 3 kinds of production costs are rent (for land use) wages and interest (on invested capital). The rent on land is also too high and this could be reduced if its value was taxed and landlords and banks were to stop speculating in its rising value (which caused the crisis in the first place and is still prevelant). Some of these changes are very serious and there is a lot of political pressure not to make them. The present government does not help with its old fashioned Keynesian Theory approach which does not work. Here the claim is that by moving the money to the production and banking sectors, the system will be stimulated.

In the past the importing of cheaper goods was restricted but the effect of this was to protect the home industry whilst supplying more expensive goods to the public. Eventually the local industry advantage of doing this was recognized as being worse than the overall disadvantage and trade barriers were lowered for most kinds of produce (except Japanese cars, for example). The policy of having trade barriers leads to international misunderstandings and eventually diplomatic relationships become strained.

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